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Issue 5 Splash Page Pencils by comic-chic Issue 5 Splash Page Pencils by comic-chic
When ~sojourn78 read the Issue #5 script for The Dreamer he said that it really, really, really needed a big "hero shot" splash page. I had no idea where to put it. I read through the script over and over again and didn't know at what point in the action would such a moment enhance the drama to the appropriate level. Mike insisted it shouldn't be Alan killing someone, since, well, killing is 'bad' and he didn't want me to glorify it. So... I got grumpy because I didn't know what moment would be worthy of such attention and made him sit down with me and go through the script together. We put stars in the script at possible moments that would work, but in the end, we decided to put it here.

It kicks off all the action that's about to happen, so it makes it feel like a big, dramatic moment: how are our heros going to get out of this scrape?

I re-read through Ultimates 2 and was astounded to find that Brian Hitch uses 3-4 splash pages (single page) in every issue. That floored me. I always knew that the story felt epic, but didn't realize that was one of the reasons why. I have a hard time with this making webcomics, because I don't want a reader to feel 'cheated' by a single panel image. I feel like a lot of webcomics abuse this. But now that The Dreamer is a print comic, I dunno... I guess I'll have to think about this more.

Colors here: [link]
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:iconraven4ever:
raven4ever Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2008  Student Digital Artist
Your lineart is incredible. I found myself drawn to this the minute I saw it because the lines are just perfect.
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downcaste Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Funny raven says the "Minute" they saw it. It's minute men, right?
Agree, excellent lines. I think I learned two new tricks just by looking. The main tip I gleaned is that I don't just need to change the line width, but maybe the opacity too for the non-silohouettes and for the details.
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downcaste Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Also by changing the opacity of the black lines, I what ever color I do under it should tint it the right shade.... theoretically.
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igcreator Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2008
are those Hessians up there? jus' wonderin.

awesome job, yo! you never fail to disappoint!
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2008  Professional
Nope. They're British Dragoons. The Hessians were just a diversion. :D
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igcreator Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2008
darn, i thought i totally had it then. :doh:

thanks for the correction though :giggle:
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2008  Professional
The Hessians either wore green/red coats like I used in Issue #4, or red and blue coats that look confusingly like the continentals. Just for visual distinction, I put my Hessians in Green.
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igcreator Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2008
hey guess what? :confused: i totally blew it by not paying attention to the COLOR splash picture that you posted afterwards. i didn't see the red and white uniforms.

:stupidme: silly me. my observation skills are down the toilet.
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2008  Professional
lol. I answered you without even noticing that we were talking on the black and white verson. lol. silly both of us! ha ha!
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igcreator Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2008
ha ha ha, indeed! :lmao:
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fedoragirl Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2008
I think it would actually be pretty cool to have splash pages. I personally wouldn't feel cheated because it adds something to the story. makes it more sweeping, if that makes sense. :D

with that said, this is really cool. and dramatic.
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2008  Professional
That's good to know! I think that more of them would add to the story, too....
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AuthorGirl86 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008
Wow. This is epic. Those details are fantastic. I only just read the description and trust me, there's pretty much no way we can feel cheated with something like this. Fantastic as always :)
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2008  Professional
lol. Someone sent me an email saying, "Is this actually what you intended to keep us hooked till next week?" O____o

I, uh, guess you can't please everyone all the time! I'm glad the rest of you like it!!
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lennan Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008
Wow, this are nice. But I have a question, what are the blue pencil lines marking out? Just out of curiosity.
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional
Those are my bleed lines, and the lines for the "safe" area inside the page. Just so I know when it goes to print, that all the essential stuff must be in the inside set of lines. Anything outside the outside set of lines is "bleed" and... well, it'll probably end up on the floor of the cutting room at the printers.

I trace all my drawings onto bristol board in a non-photo blue pencil, so you can see that showing through on some of the characters.
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Boostmetal Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
Your mention of tracing suggests that you use a light box. If true, then I ask - what paper do you use for your preliminary drawings? Also, and this may sound strange, why bristol? Is this decision based on archival reasons?
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2009  Professional
I draw initially on tracing paper. I do the final art on Bristol Board for several reasons. One, that's what comic book artist draw comic book pages on, lol. Two, it doesn't wrinkle. Three, it's a much smoother, cleaner surface to draw on than sketchbook paper.

I did a tutorial of my process once. It might help if you're really interested: [link]
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Boostmetal Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
My, that was a quick response! Thank ya' kindly! ;) Great tutorial series, by the way. Its informal tone was informative without being pedantic, and the inclusion of various tidbits on perspective and whatnot was a nice touch.
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lennan Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008
Oohh, I see.

Very informative, thanks! =D
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swinsea Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
I love this splash.

Everything down to the subtle angling of the trees adds to the "holy crap"-ness of it all.
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional
thanks! I'm glad you like! :D
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Tannalein Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
I think you chose the right place to put it :D It has the right dramatic impact :)
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Jaala Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008
etts AMAZING!
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Snitter Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional Writer
Amazing! I love hearing about HOW this came about....its always so cool to get the behind-the-scenes stories for the Dreamer!! This page is simply stunning!
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional
hee hee. You were one of the girls who got to read the #5 script! :giggle: I certainly like having Mike around... I never like when he tells me to fix something, but he's always right!
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Snitter Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional Writer
It's always great getting that guy perspective! I'm always trying to hunt out guy readers for the Elevator, because it's soooooo hard to know that perspective! HA HA, I need a husband, methinks... :paranoid:
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional
lol! What happened to that one guy you were lunch-dating...?
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Snitter Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional Writer
He doesn't read fiction ^^; And I haven't chatted with him in a long time. ;____;
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional
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Snitter Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional Writer
I KNOW!!! :cry:
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional
:hug: That makes me sad! We liked him!!!
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jiggly Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008
Great splash page! Top notch inking too.
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional
Oh, they're not inks, those are my pencils.

And thanks! :D
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jiggly Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008
Wow. Those are really tight pencils. Do you ink the pages on top of those pencils, or just leave it how it is?

It probably would have helped if I had read the title. :c
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008  Professional
lol. no prob. I actually photocopy my pencils, and scan in the copy and use that as my linework. It makes the lines really clean and black.
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jiggly Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2008
Interesting! n.n;

I just read your entire webcomic this afternoon. I'm definitely impressed! I'll be checking back for more pages as you add them. n.n;

It's nice to know I'm not the only American Revolution dork around here.
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comic-chic Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2008  Professional
Geez, hang out on my DA page for awhile and you'll find TONS of rev. dorks. I thought I was the only one, too. I was thrilled to find out I wasn't. :D

Thanks for reading, and welcome aboard!!
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